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April 03, 2009

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Elaine

Christian, I must question your logic on a couple of points:

First, heterosexual families are not the only ones adopting children. Gay couples, WITHOUT THE PROTECTION AFFORDED TO STRAIGHT FAMILIES, have nonetheless been adopting children for years -- often children no one else wants. They're working hard to create a loving family environment for children who might otherwise know nothing but the foster care system, or worse. And they're doing it without any assurance that a hospital will recognize both parents, or that a school will allow both parents to pick a child up, etc. Why are they not to be celebrated along with the Groothuis family? In terms of the good they're doing, what's the difference? It's just harder for them. All they're asking for is the same legal protection for their children as you have.

Second, yes, absolutely the family should be supported. You use as an example the idea of making family counseling tax-deductible. Where is your energy on the issue of the effect of divorce on children, or of unmarried single parents, teen pregnancy, or the fatherhood crisis in the African-American community? THOSE, I believe, are the real threats to the family. You are exercised over something that no one has proven is a real threat.

In fact, I don't understand how the fact of any two people who love each other getting married threatens what you call "traditional marriage." It may look different, but you'll still be fine. Really, you will. I doubt you'll even notice. And it's not a zero-sum game; i.e., the more gay marriages there are, the fewer straight ones will survive. They're just not connected in any way. This "threat" argument is a straw man.

I know you disagree with this ruling, but I think you need to be honest enough to admit that your disagreement is based on faith or emotion, or both, but not on logic.

David

I hear this "Defense of marriage" argument at every turn, but I have yet to hear a cogent argument about *what* exactly is being defended. What is the threat? Is *your* marriage threatened because some homosexuals get married? Mine isn't. So if yours is, I would suggest that there is something wrong with your marriage, not with the gay couple getting married.

So what, *EXACTLY* is the threat? How will marriage be 'destroyed'?

Christian Fong

Elaine:
My list wasn't meant to be comprehensive, and you add several great ideas. We may not see eye to eye on the narrow "topic of the day", but we could certainly work side by side on some of the fantastic ideas you bring up: The effect of divorce on kids AND adults, providing help for single parents and teen pregnancies, and tackling the "fatherhood crisis" (in nearly all communities, not carving out any one demographic).

Thanks for commenting, and adding to the discussion.

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